so my situation is changing and i am trying to figure out the best way for me to handle this.
i am an unbaptized publisher married to a dub who was inactive when we met and when we married and during the course of our marriage, and just went back active a year and a half ago.
he is a full believing dub.
Ask as many questions as you want, but don't offer your own opinions. Make them do the talking and shut up except to keep them honest and to give them guilt trips if they try bullying, lying, changing the subject, or any other trickery to avoid answering your questions.
Remember at all times, that you must portray yourself as asking because you want to understand the Truth, not because you are Satan's minion trying to steal their salvation away from them.
i have a number of older wt publications.
due to downsizing, i would like to get rid of them.
if some of are of value and have not being scanned, i could scan them for all to share.
Yes, they have. They are probably all able to be found as PDFs somewhere on the net. Search the forum first. Start a thread asking for a copy, with the name and date of a publication, and there is a good chance someone will upload a copy.
some souls here may feel i was a little harsh.
if so, i am deeply sorry.
i was abused by a handful right from the start, presumably on the basis of the avatar picture (and 2001 vintage).. when visiting dubland, i often find that others start fights with me - for whatever reason, and i provide quite a supply of them - and when it doesn't quite go the way they expected, they cry persecution.
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i have a number of older wt publications.
due to downsizing, i would like to get rid of them.
if some of are of value and have not being scanned, i could scan them for all to share.
That has been scanned already. Pm me if no one posts it.
while researching something else, i came across these two comments from a wt on how we should view the blood issue, when it comes to our pets.. *** w64 2/15 p. 127 questions from readers ***.
"would it be a violation of the scriptures for a christian to permit a veterinarian to give blood transfusions to a pet?
by all means, to do so would be a violation of the scriptures.".
I remember my Dad having a crisis over what he was going to do with all the blood and bone fertilizer he swore by, and had just bought. It was bought to pour out on the ground but ......
Then there were the Dubs that had to shop around to find food for their chickens that didn't have blood in it. Not much of that here in NZ at the time.
Never mind that a speedy hen will catch a mouse and woof it down without hanging it to bleed out while it praises Jehovah for it's meal. Our average Dubby would still eat it's eggs without a twinge of conscience because the chicken did it, not them.
so my folks went to the meeting today and somehow i got brought up and they gave them my address so they can call on me because i'm inactive,i am upset about it because they didn't ask me first,i told my parents i wish they hadn't of done that without asking me first and my dad's response was are you not baptised?
and i said yes when i was 17 and i don't want to talk to anyone (i'm 51 now) and want to avoid any discussions that may cause me to lose my relationships with family that is still in,,so now i feel my successful fade will be jeapordized.
He raised you in a church with a history of failed prophetic mumbo jumbo before you were even born. Now he wants to 'out' his own kid for leaving his failed doomsday church. He needs to grow a pair and admit he made a mistake raising you in that church. If he hasn't got the cajones to do that, he can at least call the dogs off so that his actions don't require that he destroys his relationship with his kid.
Don't accept any responsiblity for his actions and make sure he knows that you are very disappointed that he chose to raise you in a church who's god has a long history of not doing anything that it's leaders pretend it is going to do.
i am a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, and i have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the jehovah's witnesses, awake!, that claims to teach what we believe.
i saw an article from last year's watchtower about a guy who had barely been mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe, who was given this magazine by jw's to show him "the truth.
" he claims to have proven to himself that it was true from information on the lds church's website.
I asked a couple of missionaries about the scriptures discussing Jesus killing the fig tree. They said they would look into it and come back. That was over a month ago. One of them called in at the house next door yesterday, but never called on me. I saw her several times yesterday as we were out and about in our town. Her group was ambling very slowly, just kind of passing the time, until they came back to our street to find that the neighbors weren't home yet. She saw me at home and in the car every time, but didn't acknowledge me.
Maybe I should have let them mow the lawns when they offered.
I haven't seen the other one since our chat even though she promised to come back with answers.
a loud get well grace from all of us to you.
everyone, grace has been in and out of the hospital and i'm sure she would love to read your get wells.
we miss you grace:) wish i could post pictures.
My thoughts are with you Grace. Sorry I can't be there to give you a big fat hug
Chris
1914 did not bring the end they were hoping for so new light shone down from above and corrected their understanding.. 1925 also led to unfulfilled expectations and so new light was bestowed.. .
(i could go through all the dates and expectations... but i won't.).
what if the new light about 1914 being the year that christ returned was provided before 1914?
Another example would be the 'noo lite' that they didn't really have the guff on marriage for the resurrected and the old light was just speculating, which we shouldn't do, even though they did that in the past, but it wasn't speculating because it was The Truth and they were guided by Holy spirit, and the Faithful & Discreet Slave aren't doing that now, even though they are/aren't/were/weren't//was/wasn't/is/isn't .......
Confused????
Just believe ........
........ die forever if you don't
nice guy i worked with him for about a year.
he is mormon but every time we were in a place to talk he brought up religion, cult thinking.... he needs to come clean i think.... ripe for the vine of non cult thinking but not an ex-jw so i don't have the upper hand?
is there a coc for mormons?
I talk about my experiences with my father's church, which enables me to bring up tactics that I want them to use on me when they are cornered. After they tell me that those tactics are wrong, I ask questions that corral them into doing what they just agreed was wrong, then ask them to explain why they just tried to scam me with a tactic they don't agree with.
Rinse and repeat.
